Ask Ralph Podcast: Mastering Your Finances with a Christian Perspective
April 13, 2024

Weathering Economic Storms: A Preppers Guide to Financial Resilience - Mark Lawley and Ralph Estep, Jr.

Weathering Economic Storms - A Prepper's Guide to Financial Resilience. Guests Mark Lawley and Ralph Estep, Jr., share invaluable insights on preparing financially for the unexpected.

Weathering Economic Storms - A Prepper's Guide to Financial Resilience. Guests Mark Lawley and Ralph Estep, Jr., share invaluable insights on preparing financially for the unexpected. Whether it’s saving for an emergency, paying down debt, or diversifying income.

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I was fortunate to be asked
to be a guest on the practical

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preppers podcast a week or so ago.

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And Mark and I had a great conversation.

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So I thought I would share that
interview with my listeners.

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You can reach their podcast
as practicalpreppers.info.

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And I'm telling you, they are really great
people with super useful information.

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So I hope you enjoy this interview.

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Well, Ralph, welcome to the podcast.

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Well thank you, Mark.

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I sure appreciate you bringing me on.

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I'm a everyday listener to many
podcasts and yours is whenever it

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released, I can't wait to get on it.

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A lot of times I'll be out walking the
dogs or I'll be on the treadmill or the

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elliptical and it's like, I know I've
got something good to hear that day.

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So I truly appreciate what
you and Krista are doing.

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Well

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we appreciate those kind words.

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What do you have for us today?

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We're talking about prepping and
preppers are concerned about the future.

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We're not afraid, but we prepare for the
things that are most likely to happen.

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And one of the things that we're seeing
right now is is the potential for an

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economic slide or an economic downturn.

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All the indicators seem
to be pointing that way.

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And financial prepping
is a very important part.

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of the total prepping package.

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So what can we do as preppers
to get ourselves in position

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to be able to weather what may

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come?

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I think that's a perfect place to start.

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Now, I want to inject a little
biblical reference here.

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I noticed in my podcast,
I like to start there.

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So I want to start with the Bible.

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Matthew chapter six, verse 34 says,
therefore, do not worry about tomorrow

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for tomorrow will worry about itself.

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Each day has enough trouble of its own.

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So that's where I want to start But
then I want to say I concur with you.

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I think we're in for an interesting
tumultuous financial year I'm telling

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my clients every day that I don't know
what the this election is going to bring

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but regardless of who wins I think we're
going to have some tough economic times.

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So what do we do?

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You're absolutely right The thing that
we can do there's some concrete things

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that people can do to get prepared and
the first thing is You need to build

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up your emergency savings fund It's
amazing to me how many people I work

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with on a daily basis that don't have an
emergency fund What does that look like?

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I think you've got to really set aside
three to six months Worth of expenses

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so that you can weather a storm.

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Now, if you lose a job or if you have
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that, and the way you do that is you be
consistent about it and you start off

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with a little bit, even if it's, you
set aside 10 a week or 20 a week, it

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doesn't have to be this huge mountain
that you move because mountains are

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built with little 10 here and there.

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So that's the advice I give
to my clients start off with

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something, look at your budget.

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What can you afford, but that's
the place to start, Mark.

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I appreciate that, and we do try to make
that a priority, and we do try to really

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automatically fund our savings, and
that keeps us from forgetting so much.

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What else can we do?

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What's another step that we can take?

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think when we're in times of
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to pay down your debt aggressively
is a really important thing.

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I just recorded a podcast episode
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average credit card interest
rate is close to 30 percent now.

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And the scary part of that is
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debt, credit card debt 49%.

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So one of the things that you really
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pay down that debt aggressively.

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There is a ton of ways to do that.

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You can look for balance transfers
where you pay a low interest rate.

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You can use the avalanche method.

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All of those things to do something
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debt makes you a slave to the lender.

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That's

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beautiful.

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Avalanche method.

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Is that similar to the snowball?

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Yeah,

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exactly.

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It's the same thing where you pick
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put them in the order of smallest to
largest, and then you, always make

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the minimum payments on everything,
but you start with that smallest one.

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And you focus on that.

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Once you knock out that smallest one,
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You take the money that you would
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and put it onto the next one.

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And the thing about that, what a
lot of people don't understand is.

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You celebrate when you accomplish those
things every time you knock out one of

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those debts have a party for yourself now,
don't go crazy and add another debt to it.

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Right.

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You have to celebrate these wins
because if you want to maintain that

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momentum, you got to keep moving forward.

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you have wins more often if you
start with the smallest and go to

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the largest because the largest
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While you're still paying the
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ones.

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And that's why I always tell
clients, stop the bleeding

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first, stop adding to your debt.

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Once you've started that
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And like you said, you might get
to a point where something's big

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and that's where you look at, or
do what other options do I have?

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Can I go get a credit card
with a 0 percent interest rate?

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You got to be disciplined about that.

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And that's what leads me into the
next thing I tell people is re examine

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your budget and really deep dive
into your discretionary expenses.

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I wrote a book last year
called Mastering Your Finances.

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And the central part of
that is most people have no

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clue where their money goes.

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That's a fact.

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I see that every day in my practice.

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It's impossible to plan if you
don't know where your money's going.

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So start with that budget.

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Because if you say to me, Ralph, look,
you want me to set up an emergency fund,

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but I have no idea where my money goes.

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How in the world are you ever
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creating that emergency fund?

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So budgeting is the starting point.

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And then once you get that budget
figured out, then Take a deep dive

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into your discretionary spending and
look at what you are spending money on

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that you don't have to spend money on.

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There's a ton of stuff we waste money on.

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And if you want to improve the dynamic
of your finances, you've got to look

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at where every single dollar goes.

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I'll give you an example, Mark.

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I had some clients in a few years
back, they made really good money,

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husband and wife were both working.

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And they said to me, Ralph at
the end of the month, we never

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have anything to show for it.

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And I said you're not alone.

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That's very common.

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I've been there, done that.

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I said, here's what I want you
to do for the next 45 days.

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I want you to write down
every single dollar you spent.

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So they came back in to meet
with me for the follow up and I'm

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looking through their finances.

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You may have heard this story because
there's on one of my podcasts, but

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they came in and I'm looking at their
stuff their mortgage payment, their

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card pay, the car payments, groceries.

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And then they had a line
and said, ATM withdrawals.

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And it said two thousand
dollars and I said, okay folks,

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where's the two thousand go?

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That's none of your business I said
well It's your business because if you

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want to fix your problem, you got to
figure out where your money's going

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now Needless to say I never saw them
again But you've got to drill down

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to where is your money going, you
know I'm not picking on Starbucks.

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I'm not picking on Netflix.

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I'm not picking on any of those
things, but if you don't have the

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money to live within your means, then
you may have to make some sacrifices.

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So that's why I'm saying one of the
things you can do today is re examine

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your budget and re examine your
discretionary spending and prepare

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yourself by having that emergency fund.

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And there, there's two
ways we can attack this.

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We can cut our expenses or we can
raise our income or we can do both.

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And talk about diversifying our income.

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What, are some things that we can do?

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Absolutely.

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And a lot of people
don't think about this.

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You're absolutely right.

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A lot of my small business clients
will come in and say, Ralph how

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do I make my business stronger?

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I said, well, grow your revenue.

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Well, that seems easier
than it sounds, Ralph.

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And I said, we'll cut your expenses.

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So what you're talking about, Mark,
is maybe you look for a part time job.

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Maybe you have a side gig
there's this side hustle market

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that we have now whether it's
delivering DoorDash or Grubhub.

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You can be creative.

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I did a podcast episode
about that a few weeks ago.

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There are a ton of things you can do to
bring in more money because the truth

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is, like you alluded to Mark, if you're
bringing more money in, then you don't

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have to focus so much on what's going out.

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So if you've got idle time
I'll give you an example.

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Like my son is a barber.

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He's in training to be a barber.

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So he puts in about 40 hours a week.

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He's a young guy, so he's
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And he said to me, Dad I'm really
having a hard time making ends meet.

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I said, well, why don't
you get a second job?

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Well, he looked at me like I had horns.

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And he says, well, why would I do that?

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I'm already working 40 hours a week.

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I said, well, okay, great.

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But if you're not getting ahead.

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If you're not getting to where
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you pick up a second job.

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What does that look like?

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I don't know.

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Everybody's got different
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God gave us all talents.

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He gave us all skills that we can use,
figure out some creative ways to do that.

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Maybe you rent out a room in your house.

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Maybe that's a way you
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Now you be careful what you do there, but
there's a ton of ways to find extra money.

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It's going to mean that you're
going to need to put effort into it.

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Well, you can go

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back

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and do things that we did as kids.

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You can cut grass you, can do chores
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They're handyman type stuff.

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You got to think outside the box.

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It's funny you said that, Mark.

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I remember when I was about 16 years old,
I always had spending money in my pocket.

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And a friend of mine
said, how do you get that?

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I said, well, I cut that grass
over there and I cut that grass

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over there and I cut that.

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He goes, when do you do that?

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I said, after school.

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He goes, when do you have
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I said, I don't have time to play video
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money in my pocket and you don't.

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But you're right, Mark.

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And I hate to say this, but
I feel like we live in a time

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when people are scared to work.

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And if you want to get ahead,
you're going to have to work.

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That's the bottom line.

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I think the Bible says if you
don't work, you don't eat.

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Well, if you're having a hard
time meeting your bills if you're

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having a hard time living in
your own means, well, guess what?

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Grow your means.

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It might sound simple, but
that's really the right answer.

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Right.

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Right.

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I started much younger than
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We had, two pear trees in the front yard
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people wanting to make pear preserves.

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And I think I was getting
a quarter a bucket.

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Right.

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And we did the same thing.

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My grandfather had thrown an old
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And we had pumpkins running
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So my cousin and I picked pumpkins.

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My dad owned a service station.

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He gave us the front curb in October
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pumpkins to make some spending money.

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So we, we started fairly young

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with that.

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And, that's the thing, you have to think
outside the box think of things that you

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see every day maybe there's a an elderly
couple that lives down the street from

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you that need help maybe there is a way
to to, find some extra income there.

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You have to think outside the box.

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You're not going to sit in your bedroom or
sit on the couch in your parents basement

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and money's going to fall into your lap.

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It isn't going to happen.

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You're going to have to
put some effort into it.

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And you know what you're going to find
though, is that as you do that, it's

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going to grow because then you're going
to become more of an entrepreneur now,

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you know, and everybody's an entrepreneur.

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But there are ways, definitely ways to
bring in extra money at the same time.

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Like you said, look at your discretionary
spending and say where can I cut?

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You don't need to stop at Starbucks.

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Every time you go out of the house,

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I don't stop there to begin
with, but you understand what I'm

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saying?

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I see this every day in my practice.

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People say to me, and my
son's an example of this.

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I'll say to my son, Hey
where's your extra money?

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It goes with that.

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I had to buy lunch.

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I said, do you know what a Brown bag is?

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Do you know what a peanut
butter and jelly sandwich is?

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Look, Mark, I'm 52,
I'll be 52 in September.

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I've done very well.

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God has blessed me immensely.

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You know what I do for lunch?

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I eat lunch at home.

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I'm happy.

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Your office and your home are
on the same piece of property,

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aren't they?

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Absolutely.

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But you know what?

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I could go out and eat lunch every
day and I could drop 20 or 30 bucks

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a day and I could go get a coffee.

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I don't drink coffee, but I
could go get those things.

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But it doesn't help my
financial situation, does it?

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No,

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not at all.

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And an hour or two after you eat,
there's not any difference in

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that 20 lunch or that two peanut
butter and jelly sandwiches.

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Tummy's full, taste buds of a.

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Yeah.

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And I, and it's funny you said, I
did this Monday coming up there,

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I'm doing a release called things
I learned from growing up poor.

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Now it wasn't me.

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I didn't grow up poor.

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I was very fortunate, but
there are lessons that you

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can learn by being frugal.

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I didn't say cheap.

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I said being frugal and more people
need to embrace that frugal lifestyle.

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One of the things I think about
when I listen to your podcast is how

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am I going to buy all these things
that Mark and Krista said I need?

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That's part of it, isn't it?

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If I'm budgeting well, if I'm being
a good steward of what the Lord has

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given me, well, then I should have
plenty of money to do those things.

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Yeah.

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And we look at buying value for one thing,
but our primary things that we say you

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need to have is water, food, a way to
stay warm and a way to prepare that food.

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You don't have to have the
latest bug out bag gadgets.

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I mean, if you can't live at home for
two weeks, how do you think you're going

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to live in the woods for two months?

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And you nailed it, Mark, and you just
you, went right where I wanted to go.

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You don't have to have the latest stuff.

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Oh, no.

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We get hung up in our world
now about wants versus needs.

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We all have wants.

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I'm a big Apple user.

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Every time that new iPhone
comes out, I want it.

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Every time that new Apple
watch comes out, I want it.

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But then if I ask myself, do I need it?

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No, the other one, uh, now, cell phone.

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As long as my cell phone does what I
want it to do, I'm not replacing it.

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Period.

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There you go.

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See the end of story.

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Now they build in obsolescence.

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I understand that.

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Sure.

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At some phone, at some point my phone's
going to quit working, but there's

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another one over here that's an older one.

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It's newer than mine.

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But it was a family
member that passed away.

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So I've got a backup sitting over there.

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I'm still not going in by the
newest and latest and greatest.

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And I don't do that with prepping gear.

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I can't remember the last time
I bought any prepping gear.

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Now we spend money every
week or two weeks, every

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grocery trip on prepping food.

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And when I say prepping food,
I'm talking about canned goods

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and Krista's spaghetti habit.

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Yeah, I know she loves spaghetti, but

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you're going to steer
clear of the zucchini, I

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think.

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You're not going to be
doing any zucchini one.

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No, no.

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God made that stuff for compost, okay?

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There you go.

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Yeah I don't like
zucchini and I don't know.

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It's just a crazy thing.

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I tried it many, many years ago, did
not like it and I've just stuck with it.

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It, might be better today.

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I don't know but,

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what you're really talking about,
Mark is, the lesson for today.

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And that is to develop an
understanding of needs versus wants.

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And you asked me a question beginning
how do you prepare for this?

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I think you need to start looking at that.

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What are the things I need?

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Like you said, water, shelter,
warmth, all those things.

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Doesn't matter whether you're doing
it for preparing or just in life.

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Right.

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You got to really focus in on what
you need and not what you want.

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Now,

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at one time.

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Before we moved up here, Krista and I cut
down to one income and we lived out of

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our prepper closet for several months.

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I mean, we had no grocery store
bill or very minimal milk and a few

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things like that, milk and bread.

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But We, lived very well.

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We, did not change our style of eating,
but we ate out of those preparations.

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And you mentioned something a minute
ago, made me think that we need

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to look at that frugal lifestyle.

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Grandma washed her tinfoil.

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I'm quite a bit older than
you and my grandmother would

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be about 120 now, or a hun.

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Yeah, 120 now.

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But she washed her tinfoil.

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But she took a family
through the depression.

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And she always had something
to eat for her family.

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And she always had something to feed
those that stopped and asked for food.

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I can remember a number of times
people coming up on the porch, knocking

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on the door and saying, I'm hungry,
would you have anything I could eat?

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And she would Just tell them to sit down
and she would go in there and usually

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she'd fry them up some egg sandwiches and
she would leave or she would give them

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a pretty nice sack lunch and some things
that would last more than just right now.

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Maybe canned goods, potted meat,
things like that they could put in

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their pocket and have for later.

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But we're going to have to go back to some
of those things that our grandparents did.

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Yeah, because Mark, to be honest with
you, and I don't mean to alarm anybody,

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but what I've been telling people is I
think we're going to see Great Depression

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number two soon after the election.

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And I hope I'm wrong.

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I hope I am absolutely wrong.

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But the truth is, I think we
are going to see something that

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people in the younger age brackets
have never seen in this country.

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And I will agree.

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And I hate to say that but I don't care
who wins the election I think there's

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a financial cliff coming in november
december And I hope i'm wrong, but I

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don't think I am and i've done this for
a while you look back at 1979 And you

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look back at where the economy went.

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I think it's going to make 1979
look like child's play Wow, we have

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spent ourselves into a huge deficit
We've got too many people collecting

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and not enough people paying.

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And like I said, I'm not
talking about politics.

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I'm talking about facts.

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Right.

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These are facts.

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And guess what?

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All bills get paid.

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Mm hmm.

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So something's going to have
to give and I, like I said, I

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don't care who wins the election.

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I have a preference of who I want to win.

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But the truth is, I think this financial
cliff is coming and we're going to have

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to make some hard decisions as Americans.

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We're going to have to decide what are
we going to do for the next generation?

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I got a kid that's 23 and one that's 26.

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We've saddled them with debt that
they are never going to be able to

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repay from a country perspective.

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Oh yeah.

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We have a new seven month old grandchild.

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And we have probably settled his
grandchildren with this debt.

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I mean, he's seven months old now and
his grandchildren will probably be

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still paying this off if this country
does not go totally down the tubes and

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bankrupt and, you know, lose everything.

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And, that's why I'm saying you've
got, so clients ask me all the time,

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Ralph, there's not much I can do.

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At the government level that's true.

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But what you can do is you can pray.

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That's a really big part of it But
the second thing you can really do is

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get your personal financial house in
order So if you want me to sum up what

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i'm here to talk about today get your
financial house in order Because here's

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what we're fixing to see You're going
to see double digit interest rates.

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If what I think is going to happen, you're
going to see mortgage interest rates in

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the middle teens again, like in the 1980s.

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The scary part of that, Mark, I
don't know if you remember this, my

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dad was actually in the gas station
business and we had gas station lines.

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That's part of it, but
the scary part is this.

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Mortgage interest rates
went into the mid teens.

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That's not the scary part.

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The scary part, it took 11
years for them to come down.

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And it took a war.

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Really, realistically, it took the first
Gulf War to solve the financial problem.

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And I'm hoping we don't have
another war, but we are getting

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ready to go over a financial cliff.

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So what can you do?

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You can get your financial house in
order, build up that emergency fund,

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have a budget that you stick to get your
debts paid off, get savings set aside.

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All of those things if you want
to say what can I do to impact it?

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You can do those things and then
get to the voting box and vote

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for people who are financially and
fiscally Responsible and are going

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to have to make some tough decisions.

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We're going to have tough decisions
We're going to have to really look

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at entitlements We're going to
have to go to that third tier and

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talk about social security and what
does that look like moving forward?

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We cannot get, you're never going
to spend yourself in the prosperity.

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And that's where they think
we're going, but it can't happen.

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You're going to have higher taxes.

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I hate to say that.

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That's what I do for a living.

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I try to figure out ways
for people to save taxes.

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Well, guess what?

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If the government spending,
somebody has got to pay those bills.

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How do you do that?

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Barring a revolution, which
I'm not promoting, taxes

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are going to have to go up.

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Who are they going to go up on?

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They're not just going
to go up on the wealthy.

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They're going to go up on everybody.

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So, and I don't mean to be Mr.

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Gloom and Doom because I think there's
still hope, but you've got to get your

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financial house in order and be prepared
for like you talk about on your program,

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be prepared for what that looks like.

461
00:22:01,565 --> 00:22:04,625
We just had a tanker crash
in Baltimore yesterday.

462
00:22:04,635 --> 00:22:05,625
It's not far from where I live.

463
00:22:05,625 --> 00:22:06,685
I live in Middletown, Delaware.

464
00:22:07,585 --> 00:22:10,795
And people don't realize the impact
that that's going to have both

465
00:22:10,795 --> 00:22:12,995
on the supply chain and on the

466
00:22:12,995 --> 00:22:13,665
economy.

467
00:22:14,765 --> 00:22:18,905
Krista and I were talking about that
last night, and this morning I saw

468
00:22:18,905 --> 00:22:24,815
an article that talks about how the
supply chain is going to suffer because

469
00:22:24,815 --> 00:22:27,065
of how much goes across that bridge.

470
00:22:28,015 --> 00:22:28,225
Absolutely.

471
00:22:28,745 --> 00:22:31,965
I don't know what the
alternate route options

472
00:22:32,015 --> 00:22:32,495
are.

473
00:22:33,125 --> 00:22:36,965
I'm from the area, the alternate
route options add a bunch of miles.

474
00:22:37,185 --> 00:22:38,865
I've been over that bridge many times.

475
00:22:39,645 --> 00:22:42,945
It's basically a beltway system
that goes around Baltimore from

476
00:22:42,945 --> 00:22:45,975
Washington up to Baltimore into
Philadelphia, and I'm in between those.

477
00:22:46,595 --> 00:22:47,245
But you're right.

478
00:22:48,085 --> 00:22:52,045
And, so what you're really saying
though, Mark, is the average person

479
00:22:52,045 --> 00:22:53,395
doesn't get the whole supply chain.

480
00:22:53,395 --> 00:22:53,905
What does that mean?

481
00:22:53,905 --> 00:22:54,855
It's going to cost more.

482
00:22:55,375 --> 00:22:56,155
It's going to cost more.

483
00:22:56,355 --> 00:22:56,865
Stuff is going to cost more.

484
00:22:57,335 --> 00:22:59,685
And they're going to be
shortages in Baltimore.

485
00:23:00,045 --> 00:23:00,425
Absolutely.

486
00:23:00,595 --> 00:23:03,435
There's going to be shortages, a lot
of places, because as I understand it,

487
00:23:03,675 --> 00:23:08,815
this is one of the top eight ports, but
it's the number one port for vehicles.

488
00:23:09,555 --> 00:23:11,395
So is that going to
trigger some inflation?

489
00:23:11,765 --> 00:23:14,695
And, this could be one of the
things that, that adds to that.

490
00:23:15,335 --> 00:23:19,805
Well, great depression that I see is
what is the, impact that, and think

491
00:23:19,805 --> 00:23:23,205
of the people, the local people,
when this port's not operating

492
00:23:23,805 --> 00:23:25,445
how many jobs are going to be.

493
00:23:25,445 --> 00:23:26,065
Exactly.

494
00:23:26,275 --> 00:23:30,085
So you start depressing the economy there.

495
00:23:30,635 --> 00:23:35,135
But the point that I was making is
with the job, not the job, but with

496
00:23:35,135 --> 00:23:40,525
the food shortages that we might see in
the grocery stores in Baltimore, that's

497
00:23:40,535 --> 00:23:42,825
not going to affect my grocery store.

498
00:23:42,980 --> 00:23:48,430
I mean, I'm a thousand miles away
in North Alabama, but those folks,

499
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:51,930
if they don't have it on the shelf,
they may not be able to get it.

500
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,000
Now, does it mean that all
the food supply is gone?

501
00:23:56,050 --> 00:23:59,850
No, it doesn't mean that, but
it does mean that you may not be

502
00:23:59,850 --> 00:24:04,970
able to buy the brands you want or
the type of food that you wanted.

503
00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:11,500
There'll be food available, more
expensive, all of the things that

504
00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:13,220
go into the supply chain issue.

505
00:24:13,835 --> 00:24:14,225
But

506
00:24:14,615 --> 00:24:18,225
You know, and if you haven't tested
your budget If you haven't refined

507
00:24:18,225 --> 00:24:21,815
your budget and you don't have a
place to go find that discretionary 20

508
00:24:21,815 --> 00:24:25,105
percent more the food's going to cost
you You're going to be in trouble.

509
00:24:25,325 --> 00:24:28,825
And if you haven't prepared from a
practical standpoint, like you said,

510
00:24:29,135 --> 00:24:33,775
you're going to be in trouble So that's
a lesson for both of our audiences, you

511
00:24:33,775 --> 00:24:37,475
know prepare practically, you know What
happens if your grocery store can't

512
00:24:37,475 --> 00:24:39,225
get the things that you usually eat?

513
00:24:39,595 --> 00:24:42,195
I mean, what's Krista
going to do for spaghetti?

514
00:24:42,196 --> 00:24:42,210
You

515
00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:48,350
She has quite a bit stored, but you
know, it is a finite amount, but no,

516
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,080
and I'm just being funny, Mark.

517
00:24:50,130 --> 00:24:53,220
But no, but seriously, but think about
the stress test on the person's budget.

518
00:24:53,820 --> 00:24:56,340
If all of a sudden you go to the
grocery store and your groceries

519
00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:58,750
are 20 percent higher, where's
that money going to come from?

520
00:24:59,440 --> 00:24:59,870
Yeah.

521
00:24:59,890 --> 00:25:01,790
Well, you know, I retired.

522
00:25:02,090 --> 00:25:09,390
Supposedly from the Sheriff's
Department last July, and right after

523
00:25:09,390 --> 00:25:17,750
that we were seeing some inflation,
but inflation has really taken a bite

524
00:25:17,810 --> 00:25:20,680
out of what my retirement plans were.

525
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:26,640
And we've, we've had to supplement that
with some savings, which is, you know,

526
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,670
good that we had that there to do that,
but it's also looking for side gigs.

527
00:25:32,670 --> 00:25:38,440
It's looking for how else can
I create an income stream?

528
00:25:38,990 --> 00:25:44,510
I'm trying to keep things in the
practical prepping or under that

529
00:25:44,540 --> 00:25:46,410
umbrella and do some things.

530
00:25:46,411 --> 00:25:46,550
Thanks.

531
00:25:46,940 --> 00:25:53,060
But, people don't have the
discretionary funds this year

532
00:25:53,090 --> 00:25:54,630
that they had two years ago.

533
00:25:55,460 --> 00:25:59,350
Even if they've had raises,
inflation has eaten it up.

534
00:26:00,075 --> 00:26:02,765
I say that all the time, Mark,
especially my elderly clients

535
00:26:02,765 --> 00:26:04,275
who are on quote fixed incomes.

536
00:26:04,865 --> 00:26:06,895
Inflation hits them the hardest.

537
00:26:08,025 --> 00:26:10,925
If you're used to getting your social
security in check, and let's say

538
00:26:10,925 --> 00:26:13,655
you've got a small pension and some
savings, well, if all of a sudden

539
00:26:13,655 --> 00:26:17,165
every time you go to the grocery
store, things are 30 percent higher.

540
00:26:17,710 --> 00:26:21,620
I laugh when they talk about how they
increased minimum wage to 15 an hour.

541
00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:24,480
To me, that was the biggest joke
in the world because all it did was

542
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,900
just make everybody's prices go up.

543
00:26:26,430 --> 00:26:29,500
So the person that was making
12 an hour now makes 15, but

544
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:30,610
guess how much they're spending?

545
00:26:31,310 --> 00:26:33,600
30 percent more than what
they were making before.

546
00:26:33,610 --> 00:26:34,760
It didn't help anything.

547
00:26:35,130 --> 00:26:35,180
Solid.

548
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:44,340
I saw an article where California is
going to a 20 minimum, and the effect

549
00:26:44,370 --> 00:26:50,170
that they're seeing is that companies
are laying people off coming up to this.

550
00:26:51,645 --> 00:26:54,975
Because they know it's going
to happen sometime in April,

551
00:26:54,975 --> 00:26:56,485
I think it goes into effect.

552
00:26:57,095 --> 00:26:58,195
And that's a big deal, Mark.

553
00:26:58,195 --> 00:27:01,095
There's actually a person in
California running on a 50 an

554
00:27:01,095 --> 00:27:02,545
hour minimum wage requirement.

555
00:27:02,995 --> 00:27:05,605
But you're right, I saw that on the
news yesterday, and that's going

556
00:27:05,605 --> 00:27:08,715
to mean the mom and pop stores are
going to have to pay 20 an hour.

557
00:27:08,715 --> 00:27:09,695
Well, guess what's going to happen?

558
00:27:10,045 --> 00:27:11,065
I see it around here.

559
00:27:11,315 --> 00:27:13,975
When you walk into that
McDonald's, you don't see a

560
00:27:13,975 --> 00:27:15,535
person anymore, you see a machine.

561
00:27:16,515 --> 00:27:18,785
And you find that screen and
you push those buttons for what

562
00:27:18,785 --> 00:27:20,085
you want, well that's a job.

563
00:27:21,225 --> 00:27:22,555
That costs somebody a job.

564
00:27:22,635 --> 00:27:24,065
That costs somebody livelihood.

565
00:27:24,525 --> 00:27:28,915
And when I go to the grocery
store, there are self checkouts.

566
00:27:29,125 --> 00:27:29,895
I don't use them.

567
00:27:30,745 --> 00:27:36,195
I go over here and I go through the line
that has a person that has been hired.

568
00:27:36,845 --> 00:27:41,115
And I do that at the big
box home improvement stores.

569
00:27:41,945 --> 00:27:46,985
And I have actually seen those
where they did not have a cashier.

570
00:27:47,095 --> 00:27:48,335
Your only option was

571
00:27:48,335 --> 00:27:49,075
self checkout.

572
00:27:50,135 --> 00:27:51,955
And that's one of the other
things I'll talk about today,

573
00:27:51,955 --> 00:27:53,725
too, is support local businesses.

574
00:27:54,485 --> 00:27:56,775
Support those people in your community.

575
00:27:57,685 --> 00:27:58,625
Amazon's great.

576
00:27:58,645 --> 00:28:01,575
I can order something on Amazon a minute
from now and I'll have it by this evening.

577
00:28:01,785 --> 00:28:02,905
That's fantastic.

578
00:28:03,995 --> 00:28:07,175
But support the people in your
community support your local community

579
00:28:07,175 --> 00:28:13,065
organizations that are there to help
others Shop local shop small business.

580
00:28:13,275 --> 00:28:16,545
If you ask me one of the things you can
do in a bad economy time That's a great

581
00:28:16,545 --> 00:28:20,335
thing to do Because those are the people
are going to suffer the most the amazons

582
00:28:20,335 --> 00:28:24,495
the walmart's the targets and all that
they've got enough resources No, they've

583
00:28:24,505 --> 00:28:25,885
got enough resources to get through it.

584
00:28:25,945 --> 00:28:29,275
That's just a fact, you know Will
they see a little downturn in their

585
00:28:29,285 --> 00:28:34,400
income probably but people still got
to eat You People still need to have

586
00:28:34,410 --> 00:28:35,980
toiletries and all that sort of thing.

587
00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:39,400
So they're still going to be spending
money, but the little mom and pop, and

588
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,090
I don't say little, not necessarily
little, but the, people who aren't

589
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:47,170
the Amazons and the targets in the
Walmarts, they really need your support.

590
00:28:48,355 --> 00:28:51,305
And, as I'm saying, so one of the
things in an economic downturn, look

591
00:28:51,305 --> 00:28:53,055
for ways to build up your community.

592
00:28:53,365 --> 00:28:56,035
You don't want to get to the point
where there's no grocery store in your

593
00:28:56,055 --> 00:29:00,575
town anymore, or there's no tailor
or there's no dry cleaner, or there's

594
00:29:00,575 --> 00:29:01,665
no this, that, or the other thing.

595
00:29:01,665 --> 00:29:03,085
And you're seeing that right now.

596
00:29:03,715 --> 00:29:08,555
And that is a tragedy because what
happens in the longterm is the big

597
00:29:08,565 --> 00:29:11,965
companies will manage the prices for
you even, and you think inflation is

598
00:29:11,965 --> 00:29:17,275
bad now, get rid of competition and
get rid of that drive to make pricing

599
00:29:17,275 --> 00:29:18,595
lower and guess what's going to happen.

600
00:29:19,225 --> 00:29:21,125
Inflation will run crazy.

601
00:29:21,135 --> 00:29:22,945
It'll be like Venezuela in this country.

602
00:29:23,275 --> 00:29:23,815
And

603
00:29:23,865 --> 00:29:28,525
rhetorically, how many small towns,
where, you know, I remember as a

604
00:29:28,525 --> 00:29:30,725
kid, we went to town on Saturday.

605
00:29:31,095 --> 00:29:35,475
It was only a mile and a half away, but
you know, you parked and you could walk.

606
00:29:35,475 --> 00:29:41,775
It was two blocks long, was the main
downtown, small town area I grew up in.

607
00:29:42,935 --> 00:29:45,395
That has been turned
into different things.

608
00:29:45,425 --> 00:29:47,095
Those stores are not there.

609
00:29:47,935 --> 00:29:51,535
Back then you could get just
about everything that you needed.

610
00:29:51,535 --> 00:29:55,215
Now, it was one block over to
get to the grocery store, but

611
00:29:55,225 --> 00:29:58,885
you could get everything you
needed in that two block area.

612
00:29:59,505 --> 00:30:02,965
And if it was farming supplies,
that was about four blocks.

613
00:30:03,995 --> 00:30:04,685
Think about that.

614
00:30:04,995 --> 00:30:06,525
Think about the local hardware store.

615
00:30:06,525 --> 00:30:09,705
I got a couple of clients that own
small independent hardware stores.

616
00:30:10,525 --> 00:30:11,595
What are your options now?

617
00:30:12,151 --> 00:30:13,101
You go to the Lowe's.

618
00:30:13,101 --> 00:30:15,601
I don't know if you guys have Lowe's
in Alabama, but we have them up here.

619
00:30:15,991 --> 00:30:18,061
Most of the time there's nobody
working at the front end.

620
00:30:18,061 --> 00:30:19,211
You got to do self checkout.

621
00:30:19,221 --> 00:30:21,541
They don't even, Delaware is one of
these crazy states where they won't

622
00:30:21,541 --> 00:30:24,051
even give you a bag to check out
because of the quote environment.

623
00:30:24,721 --> 00:30:27,731
Yeah, well Lowe's was the one I
was talking about that I got up

624
00:30:27,731 --> 00:30:29,771
there and there is no cashier.

625
00:30:30,261 --> 00:30:35,601
We have Lowe's, we have Home Depot, but
when we can, we go over the mountain

626
00:30:35,631 --> 00:30:41,131
and utilize a small hardware store.

627
00:30:41,461 --> 00:30:41,721
Right.

628
00:30:41,771 --> 00:30:48,501
And you know, I grew up with You could
buy a gun, you could buy your seeds, you

629
00:30:48,501 --> 00:30:53,891
could buy all of your planting stuff,
you could buy all of your plumbing needs.

630
00:30:54,451 --> 00:30:59,701
And once that closed down, now I
was grown, and there were a couple

631
00:30:59,701 --> 00:31:03,185
of those hardware stores in town,
they both wound up closing down.

632
00:31:03,536 --> 00:31:09,046
Closing down and my dad and I, we
were refurbishing more or less.

633
00:31:09,056 --> 00:31:13,196
It was my great grandparent's house
that I lived in for a number of years.

634
00:31:13,846 --> 00:31:16,666
And we would have like a
plumbing issue just to pick one.

635
00:31:17,436 --> 00:31:23,906
We had to drive about 15 miles each
way to get to where we could buy a

636
00:31:23,906 --> 00:31:27,846
piece of PVC or a joint for a PVC.

637
00:31:28,596 --> 00:31:30,146
And we've got this thing cut in half.

638
00:31:30,146 --> 00:31:31,146
We need a coupling.

639
00:31:31,496 --> 00:31:33,086
Well, it's 15 miles away.

640
00:31:33,896 --> 00:31:35,206
That's, you just lost a half an hour.

641
00:31:36,266 --> 00:31:36,926
Both ways.

642
00:31:37,506 --> 00:31:40,856
Yeah, well, it was two lane back road,
so it was a little bit more than that.

643
00:31:41,656 --> 00:31:49,861
Well, both ways, yes, but, big box
stores have killed small town America.

644
00:31:50,391 --> 00:31:50,741
They have.

645
00:31:50,751 --> 00:31:51,351
And it's sad.

646
00:31:51,351 --> 00:31:52,041
It's a tragedy.

647
00:31:52,571 --> 00:31:54,351
And it's put so many
people out of business.

648
00:31:54,351 --> 00:31:56,071
And I know that's not what
we're talking about today,

649
00:31:56,071 --> 00:31:57,491
but it is all relevant though.

650
00:31:57,491 --> 00:31:57,821
Isn't it?

651
00:31:58,291 --> 00:32:02,451
Because if you don't support the
remaining small businesses, and if we

652
00:32:02,451 --> 00:32:06,511
see an economic downturn, like both of
us feel like is coming, it's going to be.

653
00:32:06,651 --> 00:32:09,481
All the more reason to support
those small business people.

654
00:32:09,741 --> 00:32:10,861
They're going to need your help.

655
00:32:10,861 --> 00:32:14,981
The little mom and pop restaurants,
all those places, the little diners.

656
00:32:15,021 --> 00:32:16,391
I don't know if you guys
got those in Alabama.

657
00:32:16,401 --> 00:32:18,231
We got a few of them up
here, but we have a few.

658
00:32:18,481 --> 00:32:20,031
Yeah, but they're going away too.

659
00:32:20,851 --> 00:32:23,621
You're not seeing as much of that
because the economies of scale from

660
00:32:23,621 --> 00:32:26,751
an economic perspective is really
hard to compete with these big

661
00:32:26,751 --> 00:32:30,511
businesses because the sheer volume
and the pricing they can get, but no.

662
00:32:30,511 --> 00:32:33,991
So one of the things I say today,
Mark is shop small shop, small

663
00:32:33,991 --> 00:32:36,021
business, but the big thing.

664
00:32:39,531 --> 00:32:39,951
Now,

665
00:32:40,721 --> 00:32:44,771
I've heard you on a couple of
episodes talking about getting

666
00:32:44,771 --> 00:32:46,361
your financial house in order.

667
00:32:46,751 --> 00:32:53,131
What are some other things that we're
bleeding money That we could save

668
00:32:53,141 --> 00:32:58,461
money if we really checked into, if
we did some comparison type things.

669
00:32:59,421 --> 00:32:59,961
Talk about

670
00:32:59,961 --> 00:33:00,711
that for a second.

671
00:33:00,721 --> 00:33:02,581
I'll use Amazon as an example.

672
00:33:02,741 --> 00:33:06,131
Everybody thinks you go online, you go to
Amazon, they've got the cheapest price.

673
00:33:06,541 --> 00:33:08,511
But when's the last time
you comparison shopped?

674
00:33:09,711 --> 00:33:12,581
It might sound like a no brainer, but if
you're spending money every time you're

675
00:33:12,581 --> 00:33:14,391
not looking for other prices, guess what?

676
00:33:15,051 --> 00:33:15,801
That could be a problem.

677
00:33:15,801 --> 00:33:19,791
The second thing, subscriptions, call
your cell phone company and say, Hey,

678
00:33:19,791 --> 00:33:21,311
listen, I'm fixing to go somewhere else.

679
00:33:21,331 --> 00:33:22,411
What can you do to save me?

680
00:33:22,641 --> 00:33:25,981
They've got these retention people
who, if you try to quit their

681
00:33:25,981 --> 00:33:28,761
service, they're going to talk to
you, go to them and say, listen, I'm

682
00:33:28,761 --> 00:33:30,491
getting ready to cancel my service.

683
00:33:30,491 --> 00:33:31,581
What can you do for me?

684
00:33:32,631 --> 00:33:34,031
And Mark, I think that's a huge one.

685
00:33:34,041 --> 00:33:35,551
Sirius XM satellite.

686
00:33:35,551 --> 00:33:36,471
I do this all the time.

687
00:33:36,471 --> 00:33:39,391
Every time we get a new
vehicle I get that free year.

688
00:33:39,391 --> 00:33:41,611
Then come the 13th month,
I let it shut off my way.

689
00:33:41,621 --> 00:33:42,921
It's like, now, are you
going to turn that back on?

690
00:33:42,921 --> 00:33:44,781
I'm like, yeah, We're going to do that.

691
00:33:45,291 --> 00:33:46,941
But you call up and they'll
be, oh, you know, Mr.

692
00:33:46,941 --> 00:33:48,641
Estep, you can get that for 60 a year.

693
00:33:48,641 --> 00:33:50,091
I said, let's try a lower number.

694
00:33:50,791 --> 00:33:54,541
And so negotiate, Mark, I guess that's
what I'm saying is people And they

695
00:33:54,541 --> 00:33:56,351
seem to find that lower number.

696
00:33:56,381 --> 00:33:57,171
How funny

697
00:33:57,171 --> 00:33:57,861
is that?

698
00:33:58,461 --> 00:34:00,151
But you've got to really look around.

699
00:34:00,191 --> 00:34:03,111
And again, I go back to,
where does your money go?

700
00:34:03,661 --> 00:34:04,311
Measure it.

701
00:34:04,721 --> 00:34:06,451
What gets measured gets done.

702
00:34:06,661 --> 00:34:09,711
If you don't have any clue where
your money's going, I can't help

703
00:34:09,711 --> 00:34:10,951
you and you can't help yourself.

704
00:34:11,381 --> 00:34:14,001
So to answer your question big picture,
what are some things you can do?

705
00:34:14,011 --> 00:34:15,101
Look at where your money goes.

706
00:34:16,071 --> 00:34:17,601
Every single dollar.

707
00:34:17,921 --> 00:34:19,501
You mentioned subscriptions.

708
00:34:19,531 --> 00:34:22,051
Talk about things like insurance policies.

709
00:34:22,501 --> 00:34:23,221
We need

710
00:34:23,301 --> 00:34:23,981
insurance.

711
00:34:24,281 --> 00:34:26,641
Yeah, and I think, but you
can be insurance poor too.

712
00:34:27,486 --> 00:34:31,016
You've got to look one of the things that
when my wife and I first got together,

713
00:34:31,046 --> 00:34:34,536
I always had a high deductible and
she goes, well, I've always had $250.

714
00:34:34,556 --> 00:34:35,536
I'm like, yeah, but you know what?

715
00:34:35,536 --> 00:34:39,656
If you have a car accident
today, $250 is gone, my friend.

716
00:34:40,116 --> 00:34:41,596
So set your deductibles higher.

717
00:34:41,596 --> 00:34:42,136
What does that do?

718
00:34:42,136 --> 00:34:46,026
It makes your insurance rates lower,
honor the things that you have.

719
00:34:46,056 --> 00:34:47,676
Take care of the things you have.

720
00:34:48,416 --> 00:34:51,966
Look at your insurance policies for
your homeowners and shop those around.

721
00:34:52,466 --> 00:34:57,166
A lot of people like i've been with geico
I think now for 20 years But every couple

722
00:34:57,166 --> 00:34:59,796
years i'll shop it around and say well,
what does this other one have to offer?

723
00:34:59,796 --> 00:35:00,876
What does the other one have to offer?

724
00:35:01,156 --> 00:35:04,326
I know I lost my mother last year
But the year before that she went to

725
00:35:04,496 --> 00:35:10,036
insurance shopping and she was able to
install this device in her car And it

726
00:35:10,056 --> 00:35:13,966
fed back information or something and
she ended up saving 30 percent on her on

727
00:35:13,976 --> 00:35:16,516
automobile insurance That's a huge one.

728
00:35:16,526 --> 00:35:18,056
Look at your homeowner's policy.

729
00:35:18,366 --> 00:35:20,096
Are you insuring what you have?

730
00:35:20,316 --> 00:35:21,756
Are you insuring too much?

731
00:35:21,756 --> 00:35:24,686
You A lot of people have insurance
to put them in the poorhouse.

732
00:35:24,686 --> 00:35:25,554
That's just

733
00:35:25,554 --> 00:35:26,421
the truth.

734
00:35:26,421 --> 00:35:31,736
I looked at, with my insurance
company that I've been with for a

735
00:35:31,736 --> 00:35:33,816
long time on automotive insurance.

736
00:35:34,581 --> 00:35:37,151
They used your telephone
to be able to track.

737
00:35:37,651 --> 00:35:42,181
Well, that didn't work real well for
me at that point in time, because eight

738
00:35:42,181 --> 00:35:46,031
hours, 10 hours a day, four days a
week, I'm a law enforcement officer.

739
00:35:46,071 --> 00:35:49,881
And sometimes we didn't drive
quite like the insurance

740
00:35:49,881 --> 00:35:51,261
company would have hoped for.

741
00:35:51,451 --> 00:35:51,831
Oh, yeah.

742
00:35:51,831 --> 00:35:54,341
You're doing a lot of hard
stops and hard fast goes and

743
00:35:54,341 --> 00:35:54,921
all that, right?

744
00:35:54,921 --> 00:35:55,291
Yeah.

745
00:35:55,351 --> 00:35:55,731
Yeah.

746
00:35:55,911 --> 00:35:59,041
And 130 mile an hour car
chases, things like that.

747
00:35:59,051 --> 00:36:03,661
So now that I'm out of that, that is
something I'm glad you mentioned that.

748
00:36:03,671 --> 00:36:08,751
That is something that I think I will
re examine and see what I can save on

749
00:36:08,751 --> 00:36:09,041
that.

750
00:36:09,676 --> 00:36:11,916
Another thing you can do, Mark, and
this sounds like a no brainer, but

751
00:36:11,916 --> 00:36:13,436
we spend a lot of money on food.

752
00:36:14,106 --> 00:36:15,886
We spend a lot of money eating out.

753
00:36:16,276 --> 00:36:18,716
Well, think about things like
planning your meals better.

754
00:36:19,046 --> 00:36:20,456
Think about batch cooking.

755
00:36:21,246 --> 00:36:23,386
If you're going to have a get together
with somebody, instead of going to

756
00:36:23,386 --> 00:36:25,166
a restaurant, have a potluck dinner.

757
00:36:26,106 --> 00:36:27,826
Everybody brings a little piece of that.

758
00:36:27,956 --> 00:36:28,406
We

759
00:36:28,606 --> 00:36:32,046
did one Monday night at
sister in law's house.

760
00:36:32,046 --> 00:36:34,976
We had a niece in town
that lives out of town.

761
00:36:34,986 --> 00:36:36,226
Her and the baby were here.

762
00:36:36,936 --> 00:36:39,446
And so that's exactly what we did.

763
00:36:40,026 --> 00:36:43,736
And it doesn't cost
anybody a ton of money.

764
00:36:44,206 --> 00:36:47,156
Yeah, another thing you can do, like when
I was a kid, my mother used to shop the

765
00:36:47,156 --> 00:36:48,816
no frills aisle at the grocery store.

766
00:36:49,256 --> 00:36:50,846
Look for generic brands.

767
00:36:51,526 --> 00:36:54,356
There's so many things you can do, but
if you don't know where your money's

768
00:36:54,356 --> 00:36:56,466
going, you don't know where you're
spending your money, look at how

769
00:36:56,466 --> 00:36:57,646
much you're spending on eating out.

770
00:36:57,656 --> 00:37:00,165
Look at how much you're
spending on Grubhub or those,

771
00:37:00,166 --> 00:37:02,146
you know, of course it's easy.

772
00:37:02,746 --> 00:37:03,416
Of course it is.

773
00:37:03,436 --> 00:37:05,386
But look, I'm a type 2 diabetic.

774
00:37:05,386 --> 00:37:06,976
I shouldn't be eating a
lot of that garbage either.

775
00:37:07,366 --> 00:37:08,556
I'm right there with you.

776
00:37:08,586 --> 00:37:12,096
But if I look at it, right, and I say,
okay, well, what can I do to save money?

777
00:37:12,516 --> 00:37:13,316
Eat at home.

778
00:37:13,796 --> 00:37:15,266
Plan your meals ahead of time.

779
00:37:15,626 --> 00:37:18,666
Before you go to the grocery store,
have a plan of what you're going to buy.

780
00:37:19,406 --> 00:37:20,166
Because guess what?

781
00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:21,620
The grocery store is there to make money.

782
00:37:22,081 --> 00:37:23,791
They're going to entice you
into buying other stuff.

783
00:37:23,791 --> 00:37:26,501
But if you go in there with a list
of here's what I need, because here's

784
00:37:26,501 --> 00:37:30,861
our meal plan for the next seven days,
I've planned for my lunches, I plan

785
00:37:30,871 --> 00:37:32,981
for my breakfast, I plan for my snacks.

786
00:37:32,981 --> 00:37:35,741
I don't have to run out and get McDonald's
ice cream or something like that.

787
00:37:36,011 --> 00:37:37,661
Then you're going to
get ahead financially.

788
00:37:38,081 --> 00:37:38,351
Yeah.

789
00:37:38,351 --> 00:37:40,121
And I'm, fortunate there.

790
00:37:40,641 --> 00:37:41,491
We do that.

791
00:37:41,491 --> 00:37:41,970
We.

792
00:37:42,971 --> 00:37:49,291
We probably eat out once every three
or four weeks now, and Krista is a good

793
00:37:49,291 --> 00:37:53,321
cook and she does that no frills stuff.

794
00:37:53,321 --> 00:37:57,061
there are a few things that we're
adamant about the name brand.

795
00:37:57,681 --> 00:38:05,381
Toilet tissue being one that's not
the, sandpaper, but a few soups.

796
00:38:06,321 --> 00:38:08,431
We just really prefer this one.

797
00:38:08,851 --> 00:38:11,291
Corned beef hash is one that's me.

798
00:38:11,721 --> 00:38:13,201
My wife loves corned beef hash.

799
00:38:13,431 --> 00:38:14,861
I never had a hankering for it.

800
00:38:15,351 --> 00:38:15,581
Oh, I

801
00:38:15,581 --> 00:38:15,971
love it.

802
00:38:16,161 --> 00:38:16,681
I love it.

803
00:38:16,771 --> 00:38:19,731
Scramble some eggs in it
and it's good that way.

804
00:38:20,211 --> 00:38:21,361
But I want the Hormel.

805
00:38:22,471 --> 00:38:26,961
And we've tried the generic
and it's just not the same.

806
00:38:27,121 --> 00:38:32,971
To me, so that's one of the items that we
stick with the name brand, but everything

807
00:38:32,971 --> 00:38:39,501
else in that cabinet in there and in our
prepper closet is the no frills stuff.

808
00:38:40,111 --> 00:38:42,661
And we, shop for bargains.

809
00:38:43,041 --> 00:38:47,631
She came in the other day and she said,
and I've forgotten even what item it was.

810
00:38:47,701 --> 00:38:50,641
She said, but they, had buy two, get two.

811
00:38:51,531 --> 00:38:56,361
We definitely advocate the bow, you know,
the bogos, the buy one, get one free.

812
00:38:56,901 --> 00:39:01,591
And she does a real good job with that,
and one goes in the closet to cook, and

813
00:39:01,601 --> 00:39:03,371
the other one goes in the prepper closet.

814
00:39:03,871 --> 00:39:08,271
We were in there one day, and
they had a non advertised, and

815
00:39:08,271 --> 00:39:13,861
you really had to be looking for
it, but it was buy two, get six.

816
00:39:14,741 --> 00:39:17,771
And so we bought four, and got twelve.

817
00:39:18,466 --> 00:39:24,436
And it was something that we know we're
going to use and the thing Southern ladies

818
00:39:24,436 --> 00:39:30,786
can't cook without cream of something
soup, cream of mushroom cream of chicken,

819
00:39:31,136 --> 00:39:35,686
all kinds of, cream of whatever recipes.

820
00:39:35,686 --> 00:39:42,966
So that's a good place to go to the
wholesale club and buy a case by

821
00:39:43,006 --> 00:39:47,316
24 soups because she's going to use

822
00:39:47,316 --> 00:39:47,495
them.

823
00:39:47,896 --> 00:39:50,476
Which actually brings up another
point, and I just read an

824
00:39:50,476 --> 00:39:51,586
article about this the other day.

825
00:39:51,586 --> 00:39:53,036
I'll leave your listeners with this too.

826
00:39:53,646 --> 00:39:55,426
Be careful of the dollar stores.

827
00:39:56,076 --> 00:40:01,166
A lot of people don't realize that, but
they've shrunk the size of the stuff

828
00:40:01,676 --> 00:40:02,796
and you think you're getting a deal.

829
00:40:02,796 --> 00:40:03,786
Oh, it's a dollar store.

830
00:40:03,786 --> 00:40:04,726
Everything is cheap.

831
00:40:04,736 --> 00:40:06,106
Well, you get what you pay for.

832
00:40:06,496 --> 00:40:06,856
Exactly.

833
00:40:06,856 --> 00:40:11,236
My grandfather used to always say he would
always look for quality over quantity.

834
00:40:11,566 --> 00:40:11,856
Exactly.

835
00:40:11,856 --> 00:40:14,746
Like you said, there's certain things
that you want to look for quality.

836
00:40:14,926 --> 00:40:18,066
You don't want to be replacing this
stuff, but the dollar stores are a trap.

837
00:40:18,746 --> 00:40:22,526
And you had to be really careful of
that because you are better off to know

838
00:40:22,526 --> 00:40:26,566
what you need, buy it in bulk, less
packaging, all those kinds of things.

839
00:40:26,856 --> 00:40:29,986
But the dollar stores are a trap
and I'm not picking on the dollar

840
00:40:29,986 --> 00:40:31,296
stores because they serve a purpose.

841
00:40:31,296 --> 00:40:32,226
But if you look, at.

842
00:40:32,381 --> 00:40:36,451
Where we are in communities now every
community's got a dollar general or a

843
00:40:36,451 --> 00:40:40,901
dollar tree or something like that But
unfortunately, I think they're making

844
00:40:40,901 --> 00:40:45,081
people poorer and I hate to say it
But I really do believe that because

845
00:40:45,391 --> 00:40:49,791
they're enticing you to buy smaller
stuff with more packaging And dollar

846
00:40:49,791 --> 00:40:52,291
for dollar it's costing you more yeah,

847
00:40:52,291 --> 00:40:56,846
and I think about flashlights, you
know, I love flashlights, we've got

848
00:40:56,846 --> 00:41:01,406
a lot of flashlights around here,
but the dollar store flashlights are

849
00:41:01,416 --> 00:41:07,086
great to buy for the three year old
to run around the house with, because

850
00:41:07,086 --> 00:41:10,456
when I pull my flashlight out, he's
gonna try to take it away from me.

851
00:41:11,416 --> 00:41:15,296
Now, I buy better flashlights for
me, because I keep using them,

852
00:41:16,706 --> 00:41:21,466
and I depend on them, but a dollar
flashlight is fine for that.

853
00:41:22,121 --> 00:41:25,151
And that's where the necessities, you
got to be really careful buying your

854
00:41:25,151 --> 00:41:29,471
necessities at the dollar stores because
you're not doing yourself a favor.

855
00:41:29,471 --> 00:41:33,101
You think you are, and it's that
perception of, Oh, it's only a dollar.

856
00:41:33,101 --> 00:41:34,251
Will those dollars add up?

857
00:41:34,691 --> 00:41:35,151
Yes,

858
00:41:35,181 --> 00:41:35,561
they do.

859
00:41:36,341 --> 00:41:39,421
Well, Ralph, I do appreciate
you being here with us today.

860
00:41:39,421 --> 00:41:43,221
How can people find your podcast
and how can people get in touch with

861
00:41:43,221 --> 00:41:46,021
you if they want some accounting

862
00:41:46,021 --> 00:41:46,541
advice?

863
00:41:47,206 --> 00:41:50,736
The easiest thing to do is you go to my
podcast website and that's real easy.

864
00:41:50,736 --> 00:41:57,856
It's askralphpodcast.com that's
a s k r a l p h p o d c a s t.

865
00:41:58,106 --> 00:41:58,476
com.

866
00:41:58,886 --> 00:42:00,506
There's a ton of information out there.

867
00:42:00,506 --> 00:42:03,316
I've got over 300 episodes in the catalog.

868
00:42:03,856 --> 00:42:06,516
There is a store there where
you can buy both of my books.

869
00:42:06,516 --> 00:42:07,996
You can schedule an appointment with me.

870
00:42:08,406 --> 00:42:11,316
My goal in this stage of
my life is to help people.

871
00:42:12,206 --> 00:42:15,286
If I can help one person, I feel
like I've done my job for today.

872
00:42:15,286 --> 00:42:15,896
So go there.

873
00:42:15,896 --> 00:42:18,716
I encourage you to go listen to,
I'm not looking for your money.

874
00:42:19,296 --> 00:42:22,136
I'm not trying to, sell
subscriptions to the website.

875
00:42:22,166 --> 00:42:24,306
All the information out there is free.

876
00:42:24,316 --> 00:42:27,306
Now, if you want to set up an appointment
with me to look at what are some

877
00:42:27,306 --> 00:42:28,916
things that I can do individually?

878
00:42:29,271 --> 00:42:29,741
Absolutely.

879
00:42:29,741 --> 00:42:30,371
I'll meet with you.

880
00:42:30,461 --> 00:42:31,991
I don't care where you're
located in the world.

881
00:42:32,301 --> 00:42:34,201
We're doing this meeting
right now through zoom.

882
00:42:34,581 --> 00:42:36,051
I have clients all over the world.

883
00:42:36,051 --> 00:42:39,321
You pay me a consultation fee and
I guarantee dollar for dollar.

884
00:42:39,541 --> 00:42:42,251
I'm going to save you 10 times what
you paid for that consultation.

885
00:42:42,711 --> 00:42:43,141
Wow.

886
00:42:43,901 --> 00:42:45,741
That is strong, Ralph.

887
00:42:46,291 --> 00:42:51,371
We do appreciate you being here
and we'll be looking for your next

888
00:42:51,391 --> 00:42:52,091
podcast.

889
00:42:52,491 --> 00:42:53,051
Thank you, Mark.

890
00:42:53,051 --> 00:42:53,991
I appreciate your time.

891
00:42:53,991 --> 00:42:56,841
And I wish the best to you and
Krista, as you continue to give us

892
00:42:56,851 --> 00:42:59,451
practical advice because stuff happens.

893
00:43:00,251 --> 00:43:00,961
We have to stay

894
00:43:00,961 --> 00:43:01,431
prepared.

895
00:43:01,941 --> 00:43:02,371
Amen.

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Mark and his wife, Krista, wrote the book, "Practical Prepping For Everyday People." From that book came the Practical Prepping Podcast which has grown to over 450 episodes.